I like all of the lipliners from NYX I have tried, but I think these are pretty phenomenal and don't seem to get the love that they deserve. In my opinion the Liquid Suede lippies don't really need a lipliner to go with them, so I was a little confused by NYX releasing the coordinating liners (I know it is all Lip Kit hype, but whatever, liquid lipsticks almost never need liner if the formula is good enough. That's another discussion for another day though.) I ordered a couple knowing that I probably would not be using them with the matching Liquid Suede lipstick because the colors looked really great. The formula of these pencils is really nice, a little softer and slightly more pigmented than the Slim Lip Pencil from NYX, and of course a little more matte as well. I got Kitten Heels, Tea and Cookies, Soft Spoken, and Vintage as those are colors that will go with a lot of my every day lipsticks. (The first three all happen to also be my favorite Liquid Suede shades, so clearly that part did still play a role in which ones I chose. I am a sheep, what can I say?) Tea and Cookies goes well with a lot of my MLBB type pinky nude lipsticks, and Soft Spoken goes great with deeper rosey shades and some mauves as well, and I use both of these pretty often. They work with all kinds of lipstick formulas, even the Liquid Suede, though they did not really affect the wear or the coverage but just gave a somewhat crisper lip line. Overall, I do love these pencils for use with basically anything BUT the lipsticks they're meant to go with, but they feel nice, last well, and the colors are gorgeous. I will definitely be purchasing some of the other colors at some point in the future since this is probably my favorite lipliner formulation from the drug store. Update 7/18: I have gotten several more colors, and I like them all a lot. This is definitely my favorite lipliner range, and NYX keeps expanding to add more and more great colors. Cannes is a current favorite.