I didn't think I would really like Kama (not extreme edition) in the EDP when I sniffed it from the vial, it is a slightly "dirty" musk and in the nose, you really get a whiff of the civet and animalic notes. I normally run, a mile away, from civet combined with indolic florals or bergamot. I hate Jicky due to the civet, and I hate Joy due to the civet. However, with this scent, once you apply this on the skin it becomes soft and supple, I smell hints of tanned leather, tobacco and a clean "raunch" smell of booty and perhaps hot skin, at the base, but not overwhelmingly so - just enough to be very sex-ay. I have the vial of the EDP and boy, does it have sillage! Va-Va-Va-Voom. If you only like clean, crisp musks, or only feminine girlie scents, I would say steer clear, this is not for you. But if you like animalic scents, esp. animalic musks (and I do see the correlation between this and SL MKK), that are androgynous -- you should definitely try this one. I think I would want to get this in the oil version. It's on the list! Fabulous sexy scent, good for a man or woman. The notes are: "Musks, Ambergris, Civet, Black Amber, Labdanum, Bulgarian Rose absolute."