|Would buy this product again.||73%|
Age: 30-35 Skin: Sensitive, Fair Hair: Brunette Eyes: Hazel
Let me start off by saying I now have very severe UVA solar hypersensitivity. While my face, ears and upper self are most affected by this problem, my body is pretty quick to complain in the sun as well. For this reason I have purchased probably over 50-60 sunscreens in the last year alone, and Bioderma Photoderm Max 50+ is easily one of the best body sunscreens for my needs. In a nutshell, it feels moist, non-irritating, non-drying, spreads quickly and gives excellent protection. Note that the version I have advertises PPD38 and was sourced from France.
This sunscreen is also photostable, for anyone wondering, due to the presence of lots of Tinosorb and Octocrylene. This product contain both Tinosorb S and M to give excellent protection across the spectrum, these filters are among the best sunscreen ingredients currently known to man. While this could be considered an all-chemical formula, the Tinosorb M is actually considered a hybrid chemical-physical filter.
Scent wise this product is fragrance free, and does not smell like gross chemicals like many domestic sunscreens. It smells slightly fresh. It also contains some interesting compounds (such as rhamnose and others) which I believe are part of what Bioderma calls their "Cellular Bioprotection". I don't know for sure, but I suspect these may help to boost the UVA protection of the product or otherwise help sun affected skin, as many reputable sunscreen companies are adding their own cocktail to try to maximize effectiveness and boost PPD lately.
Texture wise I find this product quite pleasant. It comes out of the tube whitish, with good spreadability for smearing large areas quickly. It feels soft, moisturizer like and dries down relatively quickly. Applying it too generously can leave some slight tackiness but it isn't too egregious in that department. It's somewhat substantive and is advertised as being water resistant, but it isn't as tenacious as some of the thicker more plasticky feeling type products. It may be slightly whitening on darker skin tones, but I don't notice that on my pale body. It is less whitening than many all-physicals I've tried, but not completely clear. It does not leave chalky texture on the palms of my hands after application. It is slightly dewy, so not completely matte, but on my body I really do not notice. I find it's overall pretty cosmetically elegant relative to the high protection it offers (i.e.: the higher the protection, the less likely any given SS is going to be elegant in my experience... Though there is more to it than that of course. ;-)
If I didn't have another SS I love for my face, I would definitely consider using it for that and would say it's worth a try for paler drier skin types. It's likely best suited to skin types that aren't overly dark, and worth a look for people who are sensitive to certain chemical sunscreens but not to others. It's also definitely recommended for people with sun sensitivity conditions, such as autoimmune disorders, polymorphous light eruption and other UVA sensitive conditions -- as it will give much superior UVA protection to most garden variety random drugstore products.
In terms of packaging and price I have no real complaints. I feel the price is very reasonable given the volume of product and the increased protection. The packaging is solid, sturdy and I really like the stand-up tubes. The one improvement I can think of is if the hole was slightly smaller so that the flow of product was easier to control. I do not like wiping the opening of the tube with my fingers for hygienic reasons, and I find these large body-tube size openings allow less control. On the upside, it encourages people to dispense more sunscreen (and hence more protection) which is probably a pretty smart move.
INGREDIENTS: water (aqua), dicaprylyl carbonate, octocrylene, methylene bis-benzotriazolyl tetramethylbutylphenol, butyl methoxydibenzoylmethane, bis-ethylhexyloxyphenol methoxyphenyl triazine, cyclomethicone, c20-22 alkyl phosphate, glyceryl stearate, peg-100 stearate, ectoin, mannitol, xylitol, rhamnose, fructooligosaccharides, laminaria ochroleuca extract, c20-22 alcohols, decyl glucoside, pentylene glycol, hydroxyethyl acrylate/sodium acryloyldimethyltaurate copolymer, xanthan gum, propylene glycol, citric acid, caprylic/capric triglyceride, disodium edta, sodium hydroxide, chlorphenesin, phenoxyethanol.
Age: 25-29 Skin: Combination, Olive Hair: Brown, Straight, Medium Eyes: Hazel
I wanted to end my never-ending search for the perfect SPF with this product but it didn't happen. PROS: It did not make my sensitive skin have an allergic reaction and it has the high level of protection I am looking for. CONS: I looked like I had painted my face with a thin layer of white paint/powder. At first I thought I had just put too much on but it happened again with half the amount. So...I won't use this as an everyday SS but it will be great for skiing and other activities where I don't care how I look!
Age: 30-35 Skin: Combination Hair: Blond Eyes: Hazel
First off, you just cannot beat the sun protection of this product. However, I feel the "lait/milk" is incredibly misleading. I expected something akin to the Shiseido runny watery type s/s. This is thick and slippery. 1/4 tsp is a lot. Application is somewhat tricky for me. You must make sure it is completely rubbed in or any heavy patches will ball up. I use powder fdtn and if I miss rubbing in completely my brush will cause this to ball up and flake off. It leaves a very, very slight whitish cast that I don't seem to mind as it tones down my redness some. Overall, a fabulous sunscreen and I bought an extra tube for my DH and DD to use. I live in sunny CA and have never burned not got even a slight tan using the Bioderma. **EDIT** 9/08
I cannot use this anymore without it balling up on me. I've taken to using Cellex C serum followed by HA and it's not a good combination. The s/s never seems to sink in even after waiting 10 min between application of serums. Off to try LRP. Sigh.
Age: 36-43 Skin: Sensitive, Fair, Cool Hair: Brown Eyes: Hazel
I've used two tubes of this and it kept my skin fair and burn-free....but it exacerbated my melasma. Yea yea yea you skin care fanatics, I used enough of it. Between 1/4 and 1/2 teaspoon for JUST my face. I applied it in staggered layers about 5 minutes apart so I could get it to all sink in. I also avoid direct sun on my face whenever possible too. But the problem with melasma is that it responds to heat as well as UV-wavelengths. Chemical-only sunscreens absorb solar radiation and transform it into heat energy. For most people this is completely tolerable but in my own case and experiences, this accelerated the darkening of my melasma. I have had much better success at keeping my melasma under control with chemical + physical blends or physical-only sunscreens such as Shiseido Sun Protection Lotion SPF 55, All Terrain Terra Sport Spf 30+, or MyChelle Sun Shield SPF 28. The physical sunscreen part keeps my skin cooler than chemical-only formulas. I also find that DHC's Q10 Moist color base works well too since it has 20% zinc oxide and at least 11% titanium dioxide. They won't have as high of PPD ratings but I prefer sunblocks that keep my melasma in check.
EDIT 9/25/08 - I can't say for sure what the connection is between Photoderm and my hyperpigmentation. I have several theories that I've been testing - hormones, hyperpigmentation as the result of prolonged skin irritation and the heat theory stated above. I've had labwork done on my hormones and they are all within normal ranges (including thyroid). I've also found that my pigment patches seem to fade the fastest on a minimalist treatment routine + physical only blocks, which would seem to support my skin irritation theory, and they are about 80% gone. This is all based on trial-and-error experimentation and I'm learning as I go. But fortunately my skin is looking MUCH better than it did this time last year or even this spring.
So I guess what does this have to do with Photoderm? No matter what my current thories are, my prior experiences were not favorable with Photoderm and it was during its usage in the low-sun months that my patches were at their darkest, even when paired with anti-pigment treatments. As a comparison, I'm currently using a very gentle physical sunscreen (DHC Q10 Color Moist Base) during the sunny Texas summer and they're fading evenly and without regression.
Age: 30-35 Skin: Combination, Medium Hair: Black Eyes: Brown
This is my favorite sunscreen! It has a very smooth texture and it's pretty easy to apply on your skin. I use it on both my face and body. I am allergic to certain ingredients in sunscreen such as PABA - which gives me by far the "most deadliest" allergic reaction, whitin minutes I'd look like an alien if I get it on my skin. So I have to be very careful when selecting sunscreen. This is the first sun screen which offers such a high protection and yet does not trigger violent allergic reaction on me like all the other products I tried before. The other sunscreens such as Neutrogena and Coppertone all gave me rashes, even if it's labeled dermatologically tested, for sensitive skin, free of allergent, etc. I just simply can't use them. The only one which worked for me was Banan boat up to SPF 30. Anything beyond that was impossible.
I discovered this sunscreen from a friend of mine who has very fair skin. I was skeptical about it since I had never found a sunscreen with such a high protection level and yet gentle enough for me skin. I tried a teeny tiny bit on my arm. Hours gone by, the night over, and miraculously the spot was totally free of any sign of nasty rash! I was converted. Bought it immediately. It gives me very good protection and it has not caused problems for me on my face even after 3 years of using it loyally. However, I do have to point out that with continual use for a few days and a large amount of it (when I'm having a beach vacation for example), I do develop very mild rashes. However it is usually mild and not itchy and does not bother me much and it disappear usually the next day. I found out that even when this happens and even if I still continue using it, it does not worsen the rashes. Just little bit of redness can be noticed and it's gone immediately the day I stop applying. Considering all the bad reactions I had previously even with something of SPF 15, this level of irritation is something I can live with given the high protection. Definitely will buy it again. As a matter, I just did, and now I have 3 of these ready for the summer!
Age: 19-24 Skin: Acne-prone Hair: Brown Eyes: Blue
I wanted to like this so badly. I had been using Anthelios religiously for some time when I first came across this product on the le guide sante site, where I usually get my Anthelios. After researching tinosorb and discovering that Bioderma was supposedly a more effective shield against UVA, I decided to switch my order to Bioderma instead.
The test run was at the beach in June with a high reflective factor. Despite reapplying the Bioderma every two hours as instructed, my face got a lot of spots during that trip (I'm prone to freckling). Unfortunately, I bought so much of it that I had to continue using it for the next seven months.
It does provide some measure of protection, and it doesn't break me out or irritate me too severely. Nonetheless, I will not repurchase when my supply finally runs out.
what I don't like:
- It feels unstable, not lasting, doesn't stay put. The texture is very thin, but oily. Drying, but shiny.
- Whatever the supposed protection factor is, my skin has gotten spotted and freckled in the months that I have used Bioderma. Overall my skin tone has gone from being clear and radiant to splotchy, freckled, and dull while using this product consistently for almost eight months. (switching to this product was the only change in my skin care routine.)
- It stings my eyes if the smallest bit gets in them. If I accidentally rub my eyes at any point in the day, they become irritated, red, and teary for the rest of the day.
Now that I am finally almost to the point when I can order something else, I am going to err on the side of caution and order a small amount at first.
Age: 30-35 Skin: Normal, Fair Hair: Red Eyes: Brown
I had big hopes for this one because I wanted a very high PPD. I don't have sensitive skin, but when I put this on, it burned me around the eye/cheekbone area. It hurt for the rest of the day, even after I washed it off. This was probably the result of a combination of the sunscreen and a touch of makeup remover to touch up my eye makeup, but I never had that issue with another ss. I swapped it away and hope it works much better for her!
Age: Unknown Skin: Other Hair: Other Eyes: Other
Edit 3/4/08 - I have now upped this from a 3 to a 5. I still hate that this goes on greasy looking for me, however, if I wait a while longer than I normally would wait for my sunscreen to dry, it is worth it. It truly does protect from the sun, and the only flaw I find in this, is that it takes double the time to dry since it goes on so greasy, but now I have learned to start doing my skincare/makeup process earlier than normal to give me some extra time for this sunscreen to dry.
I may change my rating later on but as of today, I am neutral on this product and to be honest maybe not even liking this sunscreen. For background some of my favorite sunscreens have been Pola's Uncut Sunmilk, Sofina and L'Occitaine. I truly loved Sofina however, the last few times that I ordered my Sofina was delivered smelling horrible (maybe expired - an old batch) so I found L'Occitaine at Sephora and have been pleased ever since however, I recently made a Bioderma purchase since I wanted to purchase their Crealine cleanser and decided to order the Photoderm Max Lait SPF 50 to try it out since it has such a high PPD rating, however, even though I use less and less everyday, it is still too rich for me (I have normal skin) but this makes my face a greaseball regardless if I hardly use any ---- today I went back to using L'Occitaine and boy what a difference. I will continue to keep the Bioderma and use it every now and then or until I can find an amount which does not turn my face greasy.
Age: 30-35 Skin: Oily, Fair-Medium, Warm Hair: Brown, Wavy, Fine Eyes: Brown
I used this sunscreen this year at Burning Man (outdoor gathering in the middle of the Black Rock Nevada desert) for a whole week with incredible results. Combined with the Bioderma Fluide SPF 50+ on my face. Both were used RELIGIOUSLY every day --- my friends gave me a little bit of a hard time, but at the end of BM I was sunburn free. My friends started asking if they could use my sunscreen, too! We all think its a miracle sunscreen.
Age: 25-29 Skin: Other Hair: Other Eyes: Other
A dream come true! This is the first sunscreen I've ever been able to wear on a daily basis. I have very oily skin and other sunscreens caused my face to become extremely oily and breakout, even when used only for a few days on vacation. And it was impossible to ever consider wearing makeup over sunscreen I've actually found this product is a bit drying, so if anything, it's improved the condition of my skin, clearing up some blemishes.
This sunscreen is thin enough that I now wear it to the office underneath my makeup. I just brush a little loose powder over my face to take away the light shine from the cream and done! I found it absorbs quickly with no white film and no peeling. I made it through the summer without any darkening of my freckles or brown spots. I have recommended it to everyone I know and ordered an extra container to make sure I don't run out!
Age: 30-35 Skin: Combination, Fair, Cool Hair: Brunette, Fine Eyes: Blue
I would not go out in daylight hours if I could avoid it...this is how I feel about getting sun on my skin (trying to make up for the teen tanning I did). I have used a lot of different sunscreens. This one doesn't make me feel totally suffocated or greasy, as the LRP did. It powders down nicely and doesn't look like an oil slick 5 minutes after you put it on. It is not as drying and is more protective than Shiseido spf 55+ lotion, but it's not quite as cosmetically elegant as the Shiseido either.
I ordered it from leguidesante who got it to me in about 2 weeks. I have not used this for heavy activity or swimming so I cannot speak for it's being waterproof or not.
Age: 36-43 Skin: Normal Hair: Blond Eyes: Blue
This just didn't work for me. I'm fair, dry skin. I bought this for vacation as I freckle easily and it didn't block the sun any better than the dept store brands I've tried. I got massive freckling (while I also wore a hat AND didn't go in the water with it on my face) and a bad acne breakout (which I'm not prone too) the week I used it. Also it way drying on me and produced some small flaking. To make matters worse, I bought from LeGuidesante.com and waited 3 weeks for priority shipping? Then my credit card number was highjacked and I had to close my cc account. Total Bust :(
Age: 30-35 Skin: Oily Hair: Brunette Eyes: Green
For several years I was using La Roche Posay sunscreens thinking I was getting the best protection, but recently I was disappointed to find out that their filters don't block the longest wavelengths (380nm-400nm) of UVA light well. Tinosorb M is by far the best filter against 380nm-400nm UVA light, but La Roche Posay sunscreens don't use it. Companies that use tinosorb M include Ducray, Bioderma, Avene, and Roc. La Roche Posay sunscreens come labeled with high PPD values, but I've been reading that PPD doesn't tell the whole story about a sunscreen's UVA-blocking ability.
I tried a few different sunscreens that contain tinosorb M. The two sunscreens that I'll use regularly now are Ducray SPF 50+ Cream (see my review) and this Bioderma Max Lait SPF 50+. Both of them seem similar in terms of whitening effect and shinyness. If I only could choose one, I'd choose the Ducray because of its high water resistance. I'll use the Bioderma when I won't sweat much or I need to apply my sunscreen quickly (the Ducray is thicker and takes more time to apply). Also, [a freshly applied, dry layer of] the Bioderma may have more UVA-blocking ability than the Ducray, since Bioderma is willing to state it's exact PPD (35). The Bioderma Lait seems to have more water resistance than I was expecting after reading this website, but if I'm sweaty and rub my face, some of the sunscreen does rub onto my fingers. I wonder how much effectiveness is lost if one sweats... I wish there were a way to know.
Age: 30-35 Skin: Normal Hair: Brunette Eyes: Hazel
some info... i have normal to dry skin now that i'm using taz and am on the bcp. i use vit c in the am under my sunscreen.
positives about this product: high ppd protection (i believe it's the highest out there), it doesn't flake on me when i use skinceuticals c+e+ferulic acid underneath it, i think that's b/c this vit c product is more moisturizing than others. it seems to last under some sweating but not for a lot of sweating.
negatives: it can ball up on my skin if i'm using the cellex-c vit c product underneath it. it can also ball up on my skin if i gob a bunch on all at once. it has to be applied lightly. i don't apply the whole 1/4 teaspoon that's necessary for the face. i apply maybe 3/4's of this and it still provides adequate protection. my spots haven't gotten darker since i started using this. it has a white-ish cast but i don't mind a whole lot b/c i am pale. it leaves a shiny sheen after soaking in but i can offset it by applying some light powder over it.
all in all it's a good product if you're pale, don't have too dry of skin, and don't mind applying some powder to offset the shininess. i love the high ppd protection and will continue to use on sunny days. on dreary, gray, winter days i will use the anthelios spf 15 b/c it just melts into my face and doesn't ball up. anthelios is actually my preferred sunscreen but it's ppd is much lower than this one.
Age: 30-35 Skin: Combination, Fair-Medium Hair: Brown, Medium Eyes: Brown
I live in Canada where the best sunscreens are Ombrelle and La Roche Posay now with Mexoryl sx and xl and both made by Loreal. Unfortunately, as a guy, I have been wearing sunscreen religiously for the past ten years, yet at 31, I'm still seeing slight damage on my face coming up . I have combination to more oily skin in the summer, I thought I was doing a great service for my skin by using the very greasy Ombrelle and LRP...I was wrong! I have now learned all about ppd factors and I now know that what I was using wasn't protecting me all that much from UVA rays (only ppd 10), so I ordered Photoderm Max Lait spf 50 from Europe...Wow! For once, I'm not that oily wearing sunblock, for once there's not an oily shine gleaming on my face, for once I don't feel like people are looking at me like "why does that cute guy have pasty gunk smeared all over his face?" This sunblock is truly incredible even for very oily skin like mine in the summer...I still get a little shine a few hours after I apply it but nothing like the toothpaste-textured LRP mess. Wow! I found a keeper and I'll be using it daily from now on. I don't know about my being able to re-apply but I figure as long as I don't sweat too much or stay out in the sun too long, a once daily application will be okay. Great product and it's like UVA ppd 35 protection which in unheard of in Canada!!!
Age: 25-29 Skin: Dry, Fair Hair: Blond Eyes: Blue
My favorite SS ever. I have normal to dryish skin and find it slightly drying in the wintertime, but no stinging or greasy feeling so I could care less. I'd rather wear a little moisturizer underneath than deal with a greasy stinging mess. It spreads much more easily than my previous ss (LRP DermoPeds Lait) and has no smell. It is a little pricey, but people are paying the same amount of money for some US brands with much less protection (i.e. LRP Anthelios Sx, Shiseido, DHC etc.) It doesn't leave a white cast on me, but I am pretty pale. I probably wouldn't wear this swimming since it does displace easily when in contact with water, but that does make it easy to wash off and saves me from having to use a cleansing oil every night.
Age: 25-29 Skin: Sensitive, Fair Hair: Blond Eyes: Hazel
My Skin Type: dry, highly reactive, sensitive, flaky, rosacea-prone
I picked this up because I was using topical retinoids and was worried about sun damage. As far as I know, this is the most protective sunscreen available anywhere. I don't know why other companies don't follow suit and create more products like this...unlike most Euro sunscreens that call themselves "lait" (lotion), and are more like a thick paste, this is indeed a creamy lotion. It has no fragrance that I can detect and while it does have a whitish cast when first applied, after waiting the recommended 20 minutes to allow it to absorb, no white cast is discernible, at least on my pale skin. The finish is velvety with a slight shine. I just apply loose powder over it and I'm good for the day. It's the least "sunscreeny" sunscreen I've tried...much better IMO than LRP Dermo-Peds spf 40. Although that did have a nice matte finish, it was a bit drying on my skin and after a while tended to look patchy. The velvety looking finish of Bioderma lasts all day. I have extremely sensitive skin and am able to use it year round (with the exception of during extreme cold spells...my skin becomes too irritated to tolerate even this). I don't love having to wear sunscreen every day (and IMO it's a must) but at least wearing this is pleasant.
Age: 25-29 Skin: Acne-prone, Fair, Neutral Hair: Brown, Straight, Fine Eyes: Green
wow, this is the best wearability for the protection. I think this is the best protection you can get, period. I think its SPF 100 but euro ss cant list anything above 50, so they say 50+. The PPD is 35, which is the highest Ive ever seen. I paid almost $30 for the 100ml tube, which isnt bad. The product itself soaked in nicely and was relatively matte, with no white cast, although Im fair skinned. So far I love it, and its my new favorite sunscreen. The downside is that its not sold in the USA, so I have to buy it online. *****update 04/08/07****** LOVING this! I also found a website where I can get it for about half the price as where I got it before - leguidesante.com, 2 tubes of this was $28 before shipping (which, to the US was $15, but not that bad considering its from france). Anyway, the protection from this cant be beat, and I actually have seen an improvement in my skin tone since using this, although maybe thats just my imagination? But I slather this stuff on, and it looks really white an opaque at first, but then I give it a minute to sink in, and then try and run it in more, give it another minute to sink in, etc.. and eventually it dries clear with no white cast. Takes some effort, but worth it for the high protection! I dont need a moisturizer when I use this, and I find that my face is NOT greasy or shiny at the end of the day (unlike LRP Anthelios SX which would make me shiny and in need of blotting by lunchtime). So yeah, this is probably the best sunscreen you can get. Im also terribly acne prone (I use differin at night) and this hasnt given me a single pimple. Love it and I just bought 2 more tubes to get me thru the summer!**********update 02/21/08****** this is still my go-to sunscreen when Im going to be in the sun. Ive repurchased this many times. I also spent the past summer in new mexico and arizona, and used this everyday, and never got any burns or sun damage, and I went hiking a lot, even in the grand canyon. I got my boyfriend to use it too, he likes that its not fragranced. If I wanted to go without makeup I would mix in some of the bioderma tinted creme and it works great for some sheer cover, like a tinted moisturizer. right now Im using proactiv solution for acne because Ive had bad breakouts lately, and needed something stonger than differin, and so I use bioderma on top as both a moisturizer and sunscreen. it works great, love it!
Age: 44-55 Skin: Normal Hair: Brown Eyes: Green
About 3 months ago I switched to Bioderma Max Lait from LRP Dermopeds Lait and like it better. It does leave a bit of a white cast particularly if my skin is drier or flaky and is a little shiny but until the "perfect" SS comes along this will do. I find it easier to spread than the LRP and it has no smell at all. I also like the texture better, smoother somehow. Since I started RAM this fall the Bioderma seems less drying and doesn't sting (the LRP sometimes does if my skin is irritated). I know I don't use the recommended 1/4 tsp of this but can't imagine how I'd use that much of anything on my face even when it's really dry. I'll definetly repurchase.
Age: Unknown Skin: Other Hair: Other Eyes: Other
I think I can stop searching for s/s now. This actually sinks in quickly for me and leaves a velvety finish - not at all greasy. The high PPD makes me feel really secure after all the treatments I use on my face. It only leaves a very slight white cast if used alone (I'm NC25) - and I mean, really slight - but I bought it in a pack with the tinted cream from Tubotica and mixed together it's invisible.