Yes yes it's very black blahblah. For waterline purposes, this SUCKS. You wanna look like a gothy chick who just got dumped, then get this. You will look like you're crying because it smudges and runs like no other. No, it's not waterproof, but neither is UD 24/7 in zero and that doesn't run/smudge like feline does. Disappointment.
This is black. If you are looking for an intense true black liner, you've found it. I hate that it's LE, but when it is repromoted I make sure that I stock up. Another thing is that sometimes, on my extra extra oily lids days, it creases.
It does look like the blackest black, and maintains that color even if you smoke/smudge it out around your eyes. Works fantastically for a smudgy, BLACK, blended out smoky eye. However, it does not remain on my waterline for longer than a couple of hours. When I used a gel liner on my upper lid and then tightlined with this pencil, I found that while the gel stayed put, the Feline kohl had migrated under my eyes and onto my lids, and there was nothing left on the waterline.
Lesson learned: use waterproof liner for the waterline.
My fav black go to kohl liner of all time, many brands even expensive brands make what i think are nice kohl liners but dont stay in the water line after five minutes, FELINE on the other hand stays put for hours upon hours and is a must have for me and for clients. I use this for 90% of my smoky eye looks, perfect for lining, smudging and even works amazing in place of slick black greasepaint stick, which i also own and love. Some say you dont need greasepaint with feline, but i love using Feline as a liner so I buy the greasepaint as my base to perserve my feline kohls because they are limited edition, even thou i buy as many as possible to last me until the next launch.
LOVE this liner. just rediscovered it in my stash. so black and so easy to give you a smoky look. blackest of liners i own. i've been using it everyday lately. stays on all day for me as long as a smudge it. i've even napped w/ it and it didn't budge. not worth the price on ebay...so hopefully mac brings this out again or at least make it permanent.
I can see why the rating is so low, it does smudge like crazy, but after all, it's a kohl and it's meant to be able to smudge.
I bought this specifically to line my waterline, and it works great for that. It does not budge - it does fade away but it fades prettily without creating any mess, and I can always see some of it still left on the waterline.
I personally have heavy lids, and haven't had issues with this color transferring to the upper lid. I do apply and always smudge out with a liner brush. I will have issues with the corners running as I have watery eyes. When I first bought this it was sold to me as "the blackest black". I personally prefer smolder over this pencil. It may be splitting hairs, but it's more intense anddarker to me. Like all of MAC's kohls it has a great texture for application. Because of the soft texture little flakes can fall or easily get stuck to fingers when sharpening. It can get messy, but it's a good investment pencil. Again, if you're looking for the darkest of them all try smolder.
I wish you could give an overall rating of "0"
This may work for some, and you might be one of them but I am not. I love the way this looks on the eye, it applies smoothly and evenly. As soon as you blink your eyes you will have the upside down half moon on you beautifully placed work of art, no matter how long you let it dry before blinking, and I do not have oily lids.
Later in the day this will slide of your waterline. I would also find random melted eyeliner on my face, not a cute site.
Bottom line: I do not recommend this and will not be repurchasing.
I've been using this eyeliner for 3 years now. This is by far the darkest eyeliner out in the market. I've purchased other brands here and there, but I kept coming back to this one. It goes on smooth even when it isn't sharpened, and really brings out your eyes. This eyeliner is such a good investment!
This is good and dark but not as creamy as my HG Givenchy Magic Kajal. That goes on like butter. This is a second and while I like Givenchy's, it is nice to have a slim pencil. With this I don't have to smudge with a pencil brush. With Givenchy's I most definitely must because the pencil is so fat. This, of course smudges but what kohl doesn't? I would recommend it.
I love this more and more! I'm out of my Givenchy and this is divine! I'm a bit of an eyeliner whore. My eyes look so much better with it. This goes on so smoothly but it isn't super soft like Stila Kajal so it gives a precise line. Also, it works great over eyeshadows unlike Smolder and the Lancome pencil.