This is the nude lipliner I've been looking for my whole life! As a cool PPP/LLL, I have never found a nude liner that wasn' t too dark, too brown, too orange (Spice, etc), too pink (Chanel nude), too light (L'Oreal Sexy Beiges) or too porn-star. This is just about perfect, a light, seemingly neutral nude. Nice texture, not too hard. Just dark enough to define my un-pigmented lips. Although with my coloring I can't pull off a nude lip too well, this pencil with various colors tried on top is going to be my best bet I think.